Another Bush Supporter Steps Over the Line

[jumper69]

Why anyone things Swaggert is anything but a con man and a charlatan is beyond my comprehension. [img]graemlins/whatever.gif[/img]

[LAKE]

We all know Kerry supporters are ALL little angels. [img]graemlins/whatever.gif[/img]

Threat to Bush ("Kill Bush") on billboard gains Secret Service notice
Copyright ? 2003, The Morning Call ^ | October 2, 2003 | By Nicole Radzievich


Posted on 10/03/2003 5:43:05 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines


Allentown, PA--The U.S. Secret Service has taken notice of a white billboard along Route 22 that has ''Kill Bush'' painted on it.

...police say the Secret Service on Wednesday began asking questions about the graffiti. If federal authorities were to pursue the matter, the author or authors of the graffiti could face charges of threats against the president, a federal crime punishable by fines and imprisonment up to five years.

Doreen Murphy of Fogelsville said she wouldn't shed a tear for the vandal.

''You can see this was well thought out. It wasn't a bunch of kids like the vandals that smashed the school bus windows in Northampton ,'' said Murphy, who works at the nearby Lehigh Valley Industrial Park IV and first saw the billboard on Monday. ''With the state this country is in right now, we don't need this.''

The perpetrator, [police] said, had to spend some time, possibly with a ladder, to roll red paint across the billboard. The letters are carefully written.

The billboard incident is one of several similar messages that have been uttered or posted around the country in recent months, according to published reports.

''This would represent a new and alarming trend in rhetoric against President Bush and his policies,'' said John Pettegrew, associate professor of history at Lehigh University. ''It would be extremely dangerous for this country and democracy.''


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[LAKE]

How about this lovely message....



..or the dipshits at moveon.org who compared him to Hitler?

You will be crying in your soup come November, my friend. [img]graemlins/star.gif[/img]

[cincygreg]

Being a non relgious person and someone who could never vetnture as far to the right as Fallwell, I hardly see any shock value from the fact that a southern evangilist who is as far right as humanly possible would say this.
And since everyone know how for to th right Fallwell is in his beliefs I say.
WHO FREAKIN CARES.

His opinion is noit the opinion of the President. He is merely a supporter of the bill in a sort of more extreme manner.

Maybe he should phrase it differently, and someone who does his line of work might not waan be talking about killing people but...

If you are gonna blame the President for everything one of his supportes says, then I guess all democrats are radical criminal protesters based on the thousands that were arrested during the Republican convnetion.

Not sticking up for Fallwell, just saying you cant blame the president for the view of one of his supporters unless you are going to make the same kind of assimilation on the other side as well.

I personally dont care about this gay marraige thing at all.

[reason]

Swaggart said he?d kill a gay man for looking at him the wrong way.

Even in the hurricane of sewage that passes for political debate this year, Swaggart?s anti-homosexual hatred ought to stand out. But so far, it?s barely registered beyond Internet blogs that have linked to video of the sermon.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The side effect of this whole debate I think is that you're going to see more assaults against gay people, and I think the Swaggerts and Phil Burresses of the world are fine with that. I know of two recent separate attacks outside a bar in Newport, and death threats against the owner of another Newport bar, Crazy Fox Saloon.

The anti-gay hysteria is being whipped up and Bush is eagerly letting it happen.

[dunagakw]

Just what the hell is a Poltroon????

[LAKE]

pol?troon ( P ) P
ronunciation Key (pl-trn)
n.
A base coward: ?Every moment of the fashion industry's misery is richly deserved by the designers... and magazine poltroons who perpetuate this absurd creation? (Nina Totenberg).

------------------------------------------------- [French poltron, from Old Italian poltrone, coward, idler, perhaps augmentative of poltro, unbroken colt (from Vulgar Latin *pulliter, from Latin pullus, young animal. See pau- in Indo-European Roots), or from poltro, bed, lazy.]
------------------------------------------------- pol?trooner?y n.


Source: The American Heritage? Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright ? 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


Poltroon

\Pol*troon"\, a. Base; vile; contemptible; cowardly.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, ? 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


Poltroon

\Pol*troon"\, n. [F. poltron, from It. poltrone an idle fellow, sluggard, coward, poltro idle, lazy, also, bed, fr. OHG. polstar, bolstar, cushion, G. polster, akin to E. bolster. See Bolster.] An arrant coward; a dastard; a craven; a mean-spirited wretch. --Shak.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, ? 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


Poltroon

adj : characterized by complete cowardliness n : an abject coward [syn: craven, recreant]


Source: WordNet ? 2.0, ? 2003 Princeton University

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[Lew]

FWIW, Swaggart did apologize.

And, he is cousins with Mickey Gilley and Jerry Lee Lewis.

And say what you want about the Killer, but he used to set pianos on fire and continue playing them.

I don't care what your politics are, anyone who sets a piano on fire and then still continues to play it (and play it well, at that) is automatically cool in my book.

Now, as for that incestial-pedophillia thing....well, hey, none of us is perfect....

[Piña]

<font size="4"><font color="magenta">The homicidal sermon</font></font>

Jimmy Swaggart disgraces himself in saying he?d kill a gay man over a lusty look.

In debate, there ought to be a place to draw the line, a time where opponents and supporters can agree that someone has gone too far, a point at which they can all recognize an outrage.

Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart provides an example.

During a sermon last week, Swaggart expressed his support for the Federal Marriage Amendment and, in the course of that sermon, also advanced a sentiment that ought to make him an outcast among supporters of a constitutional ban on gay marriages.

Swaggart said he?d kill a gay man for looking at him the wrong way.

Even in the hurricane of sewage that passes for political debate this year, Swaggart?s anti-homosexual hatred ought to stand out. But so far, it?s barely registered beyond Internet blogs that have linked to video of the sermon.

?I?ve never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry,? Swaggart said in the message. ?And I?m gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I?m gonna kill him and tell God he died.?

Perhaps if you listen with a forgiving ear, you?ll detect some undercurrent of amusement in Swaggart?s voice as he says those words. Some apologists have said he?s using a Southern idiom that merely expresses annoyance. If this is a joke, it rings terribly flat in the Northern ear, the Christian ear and the civilized ear.

It?s not surprising that Swaggart has again done something that is, viewed with undue charity, stupid. This is the same guy who imperiled an evangelistic business empire with national reach by keeping company with prostitutes. But this is more than a personal embarrassment. Swaggart is hitching this vicious sentiment to a national political issue. He?s linking his own expression of homicidal antipathy for homosexuals to his praise (to God, no less) for President George W. Bush and the Federal Marriage Amendment.

That amendment, which defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman, was proposed by President Bush earlier this year.

We?ve editorialized before in support of allowing states to sanction civil unions, legal contracts conferring many of the protections of marriage on same-sex couples. We haven?t endorsed same-sex marriage; its ardent supporters and opponents are so quick to square off on the issue that we?re not confident anyone has fully anticipated the financial and social consequences of extending marriage to gay and lesbian couples.

At the same time, we think conservatives ought not leap so quickly to amend the Constitution. By our reading, every amendment to the Constitution has been ratified to secure additional rights for Americans, not to constrain them. The one clear exception to that generalization, the amendment prohibiting the sale of alcoholic beverages in the U.S., was quickly recognized as an unenforceable failure and repealed.

But at least the mainstream of the debate has dwelt on principles and consequences. Most opponents of gay marriage have made their arguments without saying that gays aren?t fit to live. Likewise, the advocates of gay marriage concentrate their arguments on the basis of extending legal protection to gays and lesbians; few dismiss all opponents of gay marriage as totalitarian maniacs.

We don?t expect this dispute over the future of gay marriage to end with the presidential election or with the adjournment of the next session of Congress. The question of whether one state must recognize gay marriages performed in another state hasn?t even made it to the U.S. Supreme Court yet.

In the meantime, the folks who back a constitutional amendment on marriage ought to exert themselves to denounce those who cross the line into preaching hatred or violence against gays. We?d like to believe this kind of corrosive hostility is almost nonexistent, but obviously it?s out there. Swaggart may be a repeatedly discredited scoundrel, but he?s also one of the few dozen best-known religious leaders in the U.S. What he says has an impact, no matter how abysmally ignorant it is.

And Swaggart is not the only one who thinks that way. His audience applauded his threat against the hypothetical gay who would eye him.

President Bush and the GOP ? and Indiana Republicans who backed a state constitutional amendment on marriage ? might not win many votes denouncing Swaggart and others who smirk or cheer at the mention of killing a gay man because of the way he looks. But they would enjoy the respect due any leaders who recognizes that some followers are a source of shame, not strength.

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[Piña]

The most interesting thing about this for me is that you just know that bush will do anything to avoid criticising swaggart for his death threat.

It's the slimy way he uses to have others put his message out and still be able to side step responsibility.